Unlikely, unless they can do it without heavy leveraging, because the Trump tax reforms reduced the size of tax deduction that may be taken due to interest paid on debt.
Dell privatization didn't make Dell to go beyond space and innovate. Instead they went trash, look at the XPS lineup it was like HP Voodoo and top quality rival to their 2006 Alienware acquisition. And after 2013 the Privatization the Alienware systems used rPGA Socket and MXM for the CPUs and GPUs respectively, the M18x R2 ( Avenger series) and M17x family and the M15x (which came with 260M now capable to run a GTX 970M flawlessly) and M17x R5/AW17 R1 ranger the last of rPGA socket and MXM can run a P5000 Quadro MXM or an MSI non standard 1070N or a Zotac 1070/1060 + RX580 MXM.
Similar to the likes of P570WM or P77x / P870 beasts, without any throttling issues. But with the Past privatization they went to earn billions and do this M&A and pi$s on the people, their latest Aurora machines with Z170 can't even be upgraded to the 7700 series or the Z270 can't be upgraded to 8000 CFL. Also a lot of PSU issues, BIOS lockdown. Cheap Mobos.
Alienware was totally bastardized past that Haswell 17R1, XPS has FET issues like Razer and AW latest machines throttle to 100C its fine according to their CEO Frank Azor.
Dell is a steaming pile of feces in consumer land ofc thanks to the thin and light syndrome disease from Apple.
I don't have a shred of hope that Former Alienware will ever return on XPS, a shame that Engineer driven system is now transformed to MBA exec driven system.
A few threads that will further help to understand what I'm saying..
I fully agree with this. I purchased an alienware 17r2 only to find that throttling down to 800mhz cpu was considered normal operation by thier tech support. And many systems were in place to both convince consumers that this was normal and prevent actual replacement / repairs of these systems. After tactically getting them to actually service my system and recieving 4 different mobo / cpu / gpu replacements I realized that this was an issue with literally EVERY 17r2 that was made. A gaming laptop that throttles to less performance than something with integrated graphics BY DESIGN. Sold by dell. I am happy to say that I did not return my 17r2 when they gave me a 17r4 that acutally worked. I can only think of the poor bastard they would have sold my old 17r2 to. Screw dell. Screw Frank Azor.
I'm not surprised. Going private may have taken some shareholder heat off the C-level in the past, but the reality of the stock market today is that index funds are much larger than individual investors. Companies like Vanguard hold vast swaths of the market on behalf of both big and small time individuals that simply don't have much of a voice and don't directly interact with the companies they have in their portfolios.
I went to Best Buy last week to get a Dell Ryzen 5 laptop. They had it on display side by side with a Intel Core i5 one. Both were same model (13” 7000 series) and probably released at the same time but the i5 is in a newer chassis with thinner bezel display, while the Ryzen is in an older chassis. Both have the same specs but the i5 cost $150 more. I went back home empty-handed wishing the Ryzen would be in the same chassis as the i5.
I wonder if investors make the company public, will Dell be able to help Intel monopolize the market again?
Dell still is one of my go-to places for monitors. For some wild reason no other company offers a no-frills monitors that just works and looks great..and has a solid stand! Its pretty silly to see these 24+ inch monitors still using cheap plastic stands..when dell uses the awesome sturdy ones.
BenQ is that "other company". Similarly thin bezels, solid stands, lots of features. The only disadvantage against Dell is lack of DP-out (aka "DP MST" feature of DP-1.2). But BenQ has its own advantages over Dell: better backlight uniformity (which is awful on some Dell models) and availability of MVA (having better contrast and darker black than IPS). And price tag is lower.
Lucky you! I have a crowd of several dozens U2413 and U2415 at work, and those are far from perfect. Backlight uniformity is just satisfactory and colors vary between samples (even from the same batch).
Yeah, they offer clean looking monitors with really nice build quality and next business day exchange return 3-year warranties. Anything else is REALLY hard to consider for me. Everyone else offers the bare legal minimum and janky as fuck stands/general amateurish appearance.
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JoeyJoJo123 - Wednesday, December 12, 2018 - link
Lol, how long before they go private again due to pressure from shareholders negatively affecting the company's strategic decision making?Mr Perfect - Wednesday, December 12, 2018 - link
Shortly after the shareholders demand constant corner-cutting and drive sales away due to poor quality products and lack-luster support.Yojimbo - Wednesday, December 12, 2018 - link
Unlikely, unless they can do it without heavy leveraging, because the Trump tax reforms reduced the size of tax deduction that may be taken due to interest paid on debt.Manch - Wednesday, December 12, 2018 - link
We've seen this rodeo before...Quantumz0d - Wednesday, December 12, 2018 - link
Dell privatization didn't make Dell to go beyond space and innovate. Instead they went trash, look at the XPS lineup it was like HP Voodoo and top quality rival to their 2006 Alienware acquisition. And after 2013 the Privatization the Alienware systems used rPGA Socket and MXM for the CPUs and GPUs respectively, the M18x R2 ( Avenger series) and M17x family and the M15x (which came with 260M now capable to run a GTX 970M flawlessly) and M17x R5/AW17 R1 ranger the last of rPGA socket and MXM can run a P5000 Quadro MXM or an MSI non standard 1070N or a Zotac 1070/1060 + RX580 MXM.Similar to the likes of P570WM or P77x / P870 beasts, without any throttling issues. But with the Past privatization they went to earn billions and do this M&A and pi$s on the people, their latest Aurora machines with Z170 can't even be upgraded to the 7700 series or the Z270 can't be upgraded to 8000 CFL. Also a lot of PSU issues, BIOS lockdown. Cheap Mobos.
Alienware was totally bastardized past that Haswell 17R1, XPS has FET issues like Razer and AW latest machines throttle to 100C its fine according to their CEO Frank Azor.
Dell is a steaming pile of feces in consumer land ofc thanks to the thin and light syndrome disease from Apple.
I don't have a shred of hope that Former Alienware will ever return on XPS, a shame that Engineer driven system is now transformed to MBA exec driven system.
A few threads that will further help to understand what I'm saying..
http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/how-dell-c...
http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/official-a...
Opencg - Wednesday, December 12, 2018 - link
I fully agree with this. I purchased an alienware 17r2 only to find that throttling down to 800mhz cpu was considered normal operation by thier tech support. And many systems were in place to both convince consumers that this was normal and prevent actual replacement / repairs of these systems. After tactically getting them to actually service my system and recieving 4 different mobo / cpu / gpu replacements I realized that this was an issue with literally EVERY 17r2 that was made. A gaming laptop that throttles to less performance than something with integrated graphics BY DESIGN. Sold by dell. I am happy to say that I did not return my 17r2 when they gave me a 17r4 that acutally worked. I can only think of the poor bastard they would have sold my old 17r2 to. Screw dell. Screw Frank Azor.PeachNCream - Wednesday, December 12, 2018 - link
I'm not surprised. Going private may have taken some shareholder heat off the C-level in the past, but the reality of the stock market today is that index funds are much larger than individual investors. Companies like Vanguard hold vast swaths of the market on behalf of both big and small time individuals that simply don't have much of a voice and don't directly interact with the companies they have in their portfolios.sonny73n - Wednesday, December 12, 2018 - link
I went to Best Buy last week to get a Dell Ryzen 5 laptop. They had it on display side by side with a Intel Core i5 one. Both were same model (13” 7000 series) and probably released at the same time but the i5 is in a newer chassis with thinner bezel display, while the Ryzen is in an older chassis. Both have the same specs but the i5 cost $150 more. I went back home empty-handed wishing the Ryzen would be in the same chassis as the i5.I wonder if investors make the company public, will Dell be able to help Intel monopolize the market again?
imaheadcase - Wednesday, December 12, 2018 - link
Dell still is one of my go-to places for monitors. For some wild reason no other company offers a no-frills monitors that just works and looks great..and has a solid stand! Its pretty silly to see these 24+ inch monitors still using cheap plastic stands..when dell uses the awesome sturdy ones.FreckledTrout - Wednesday, December 12, 2018 - link
Oddly I do just the same. I'm typing this looking at a Dell U2715H which is a beautiful no frills monitor.bolkhov - Wednesday, December 12, 2018 - link
BenQ is that "other company".Similarly thin bezels, solid stands, lots of features.
The only disadvantage against Dell is lack of DP-out (aka "DP MST" feature of DP-1.2).
But BenQ has its own advantages over Dell: better backlight uniformity (which is awful on some Dell models) and availability of MVA (having better contrast and darker black than IPS).
And price tag is lower.
imaheadcase - Thursday, December 13, 2018 - link
Never had any issues with backlight with dell monitors myself.bolkhov - Sunday, December 16, 2018 - link
Lucky you!I have a crowd of several dozens U2413 and U2415 at work, and those are far from perfect.
Backlight uniformity is just satisfactory and colors vary between samples (even from the same batch).
piroroadkill - Thursday, December 13, 2018 - link
Yeah, they offer clean looking monitors with really nice build quality and next business day exchange return 3-year warranties. Anything else is REALLY hard to consider for me.Everyone else offers the bare legal minimum and janky as fuck stands/general amateurish appearance.
piroroadkill - Thursday, December 13, 2018 - link
*advanced exchangenicolaim - Wednesday, December 12, 2018 - link
Typo: "new busienss focus"