No it's not. OEMs are milking the crap out of us. It's definitely costs significantly less than 20% to produce tlc nand and we're well past the r&d payback preps. Yes, I'm looking at you Sammy. Smh...
256GB Samsung 850 Pro only has a TBW of 150 but with a 10 year warranty for $10 less than the Adata
I would trust a 10 year warranty over an inflated TBW spec any day of the week Besides, now that the leader of Samsung has been arrested (Today) I hope they can quickly raise the bribe money needed for his release with a massive sale for on Samsung SSD's
The warranty is both TBW AND Years the one that comes first.
Meaning , If your samsung dies in 3 years because you write alot on it , they will not repleace it even after 3 years ONLY , they will say "you reached the TBW sorry"
True neither are very realistic on actual write endurance. These things should be able to go through Petabytes of writes. Which makes any failure to be likely electronic failure not related to write total. A long warranty becomes useless if it only covers 10% of the devices capable use.
give me a 2 TB SSD with 3 years warranty for 300 euro. doesn´t have to be that fastest on the market. if i want best performance i buy a m.2. but for DATA disk a mediocre SSD would be fine. the effort for keeping HDD´s absolutely quiet is killing me. my system is silent.. only think i hear is HDD´s when accessed.
There was an arcticle here at AT that claimed median SSD capacities rising the ladder of sorts for the past few years. Some brands don`t even bother with 120Gb drives anymore.
Some of the dearth of 2TB drives is due to the cheap controllers not easily supporting that capacity with 128Gb flash dies. But most of it at this point is due to the NAND shortage. Everyone has a 2TB drive ready, but not necessarily ready to sell at a price that makes sense. Hopefully as the 64+ layer 512Gb 3D NAND parts hit the market this year we'll see the shortage end and prices start dropping significantly, and maybe a bit before then.
SSD will never replace HDD forget it ... now we are very close to 8K movies and 8K Monitors within 2 years to come , 2TB will be a Joke with such huge files ...
Jad77 your an idiot. When inflation rises due to 8 years of quantitative easing and adding 9 trillion to the debt with nothing to show for it but affordable health care and ISIS you will still blame Trump.
450 for 960GB, no thanks. As others have said if you need a fast SSD get a m2 pci-e ssd if you just need data storage and are sick of the noise and poor random access and poor load times from HDD get the cheapest GB/$ SATA SSD you can as the performance difference between sata ssd's is not even noticeable in actual use even the performance difference from sata to pci-e ssd is nowhere near like the jump from HDD to sata SSD. The crucial mx500 2TB SSD can be had for 500 dollars now and is definitely what I would be using if i were to build a pc along side a 256GB optane drive for the OS and crucial productivity apps and a 1TB pci-e SSD for less important apps and my most played games. Everything else on the sata SSD.
Yeah, same. The last SSD I bought (before the predicted NAND cost increase) was a 1TB Sandisk X400 for $238. I cannot tell any difference in practice of normal desktop usage between that an an m.2 nvme drives.
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beginner99 - Thursday, February 16, 2017 - link
Typos in table. TB instead of GB!surt - Tuesday, February 21, 2017 - link
Looks like they fixed it quickly, uses GB for capacity, TB for total write (TBW) now.BrokenCrayons - Thursday, February 16, 2017 - link
3D MLC is always nice, but I'm not sure the pricing is competitive enough to attract much interest.lilmoe - Thursday, February 16, 2017 - link
No it's not. OEMs are milking the crap out of us. It's definitely costs significantly less than 20% to produce tlc nand and we're well past the r&d payback preps. Yes, I'm looking at you Sammy. Smh...ImSpartacus - Thursday, February 16, 2017 - link
Ol' Sammy has some mindshare in the ssd market. A fair number of folks see them as desirability superior.Better milk it while you've got it.
Bullwinkle J Moose - Thursday, February 16, 2017 - link
TBW = 200TB and only a 6 year warranty?256GB Samsung 850 Pro only has a TBW of 150 but with a 10 year warranty for $10 less than the Adata
I would trust a 10 year warranty over an inflated TBW spec any day of the week
Besides, now that the leader of Samsung has been arrested (Today) I hope they can quickly raise the bribe money needed for his release with a massive sale for on Samsung SSD's
I could use a new 80" TV as well
samer1970 - Wednesday, February 22, 2017 - link
The warranty is both TBW AND Years the one that comes first.Meaning , If your samsung dies in 3 years because you write alot on it , they will not repleace it even after 3 years ONLY , they will say "you reached the TBW sorry"
TBW > Warranty
Topweasel - Friday, February 24, 2017 - link
True neither are very realistic on actual write endurance. These things should be able to go through Petabytes of writes. Which makes any failure to be likely electronic failure not related to write total. A long warranty becomes useless if it only covers 10% of the devices capable use.Gothmoth - Thursday, February 16, 2017 - link
give me a 2 TB SSD with 3 years warranty for 300 euro. doesn´t have to be that fastest on the market. if i want best performance i buy a m.2. but for DATA disk a mediocre SSD would be fine.the effort for keeping HDD´s absolutely quiet is killing me. my system is silent.. only think i hear is HDD´s when accessed.
ImSpartacus - Thursday, February 16, 2017 - link
Ikr?We've seemed to have topped out at 1TB for budget drives.
Larger stuff seems to be possible, but it's not getting cheap.
Michael Bay - Friday, February 17, 2017 - link
There was an arcticle here at AT that claimed median SSD capacities rising the ladder of sorts for the past few years. Some brands don`t even bother with 120Gb drives anymore.Maybe we`ll get those affordable 2Tb yet.
Billy Tallis - Friday, February 17, 2017 - link
Some of the dearth of 2TB drives is due to the cheap controllers not easily supporting that capacity with 128Gb flash dies. But most of it at this point is due to the NAND shortage. Everyone has a 2TB drive ready, but not necessarily ready to sell at a price that makes sense. Hopefully as the 64+ layer 512Gb 3D NAND parts hit the market this year we'll see the shortage end and prices start dropping significantly, and maybe a bit before then.samer1970 - Wednesday, February 22, 2017 - link
SSD will never replace HDD forget it ... now we are very close to 8K movies and 8K Monitors within 2 years to come , 2TB will be a Joke with such huge files ...Jad77 - Thursday, February 16, 2017 - link
Why are prices going up? Thanks a lot Trump!svan1971 - Thursday, February 16, 2017 - link
Jad77 your an idiot. When inflation rises due to 8 years of quantitative easing and adding 9 trillion to the debt with nothing to show for it but affordable health care and ISIS you will still blame Trump.https://www.extremetech.com/computing/240531-ssd-p...
svan1971 - Thursday, February 16, 2017 - link
unaffordable...negusp - Thursday, February 16, 2017 - link
It was a fucking joke retard. Get your politics out of here, and your bad grammar as well.Michael Bay - Friday, February 17, 2017 - link
Are you a hitleryfool or a free shit bot?prisonerX - Friday, February 17, 2017 - link
Wow, you can't pass up a single opportunity to make yourself look like an idiot, can you?Michael Bay - Friday, February 17, 2017 - link
Poking the likes of you is a very low-effort activity, so why not have some fun.Samus - Saturday, February 18, 2017 - link
Did nobody get the sarcasm or is it just me. I mean this ranks up there with those thanks Obama memes, which were hilarious when done creatively.rems - Thursday, February 16, 2017 - link
Because this nand is new and has about 10x the life expectancy of my 960GB ssd which has a 70TB TBW and surely many other advantages.Laststop311 - Friday, February 17, 2017 - link
450 for 960GB, no thanks. As others have said if you need a fast SSD get a m2 pci-e ssd if you just need data storage and are sick of the noise and poor random access and poor load times from HDD get the cheapest GB/$ SATA SSD you can as the performance difference between sata ssd's is not even noticeable in actual use even the performance difference from sata to pci-e ssd is nowhere near like the jump from HDD to sata SSD. The crucial mx500 2TB SSD can be had for 500 dollars now and is definitely what I would be using if i were to build a pc along side a 256GB optane drive for the OS and crucial productivity apps and a 1TB pci-e SSD for less important apps and my most played games. Everything else on the sata SSD.vanilla_gorilla - Friday, February 17, 2017 - link
Yeah, same. The last SSD I bought (before the predicted NAND cost increase) was a 1TB Sandisk X400 for $238. I cannot tell any difference in practice of normal desktop usage between that an an m.2 nvme drives.husky - Friday, February 17, 2017 - link
When the Samsung 960 Evo 1TB is $480 ($30 more than the 980GB here). This would be a tough buy for a consumer with a mobo that supports m.2.vladx - Friday, February 17, 2017 - link
I expect prices to go down fast for the SX950, the only way they would stay competitive at this price is if performance is close to a 850 Pro.