The Market

At this point in time, Intel is primarily competing with itself. Because the enterprise market requires consistency, the HEDT platform is constrained to that three year, two product cycle, which maintains enough consistency in socket compatibility to keep the enterprise partners happy. When Intel has 95%+ of the HEDT and x86 enterprise market, rather than increasing market share to generate revenue, Intel has to convince users on older systems that their new products are worth the investment. That’s an easy sell in the enterprise market, as time is money and total cost of ownership for a system is typically well documented for cyclical updates.

For HEDT, making that case to prosumers can be difficult. It depends on budgets and how applications are developing, especially when a number of popular professional software packages are (where possible) trying to leverage PCIe accelerators. There will always be a strong market for CPU performance, and there will always be a market for HEDT, depending on the price. But at some point the HEDT and Xeon markets do collide, and the two main factors on this are price and availability.

As mentioned earlier, the newly introduced Broadwell-E Core i7 parts collide in price with a number of Broadwell-EP Xeon parts, which could suggest that Intel wants to push potential prosumers (especially the professional ones) more into systems made by enterprise and workstation partners. These systems are typically sold with appropriate support, and the two platforms differ by a few features. The question becomes about who is buying HEDT: a number of users reading this will be gamers, and will not be interested in workstation sellers.

It’s a strange balance that Intel is trying to strike. Everyone wants more – whether they need it or not is a different conversation – but most enthusiasts say they want more. Intel states that as a company, it supports the gamers and the enthusiasts who want to push their consumer platforms to the fullest, and something like Broadwell-E does that. However a prohibitive price might reduce the potential number of next generation enthusiasts who want to play at the high-end.

X99 Refresh Motherboards

Throughout this month many of the regular motherboard manufacturers have either released, announced, or teased newer "refresh" motherboards using the LGA2011-3 socket and the X99 chipset. We’ve got a base roundup of all the new motherboards coming out of Computex planned, especially as new models are being announced and shown at the show. A couple of these landed on our desk for Broadwell-E testing, such as the MSI X99A Gaming Pro Carbon:

The Carbon is a relatively new brand for MSI’s motherboard range, typically on the high-end models, and this one aims for a deep black aesthetic that is enhanced through the additional LED lighting.

We also have in the ASUS X99-E-10G WS motherboard, ASUS’ high-end workstation and prosumer based motherboard that also integrates an Intel X550-T2 10 gigabit Ethernet chip offering two 10GBase-T ports. We’ve seen this before on the ASRock X99 WS-E/10G, which used the X540-T2, and required eight PCIe 3.0 lanes from the CPU to provide enough bandwidth. We were only able to test the ASUS 10G board for a couple of days before leaving for Computex, and will have a preview up shortly.

ASRock also sent us their X99X Killer, although the courier tried to deliver on a day where I spent 30 minutes gathering stuff for the Computex trip. Go figure. It’ll be ready to test when I get back!

This Review

As with every CPU launch, there are a number of different directions to take our review. In our review of the launch of the consumer Broadwell parts, the i7-5775C and the i5-5675C we examined the generational update over previous architectures, and thus won’t repeat those tests here. We have had almost every high-end desktop CPU since Sandy Bridge-E in-house at some point, although only the latest have been through our most recent benchmark suite. Due to timing, we were able to test all four of the new Broadwell-E processors, and retest the three Haswell-E processors, however we have a more limited dataset for comparison to Ivy Bridge-E, Sandy Bridge-E and Nehalem/Westmere. It will be interesting to see how the CPU performance for the HEDT has adjusted over the last five generations.

The other angle is the recent release of Intel’s Skylake mainstream focused processors, such as the i7-6700K and the i5-6600K, which feature a higher single core frequency but fewer cores and fewer memory channels, or the mainstream enthusiast focused Devil’s Canyon processors released back in July 2014. These have been tested on our latest range of benchmarks, and should make it clear where the latest mainstream-to-HEDT crossover should be.

Test Setup

Test Setup
Processor Intel Core i7-6950X (10C/20T, 3.0-3.5 GHz)
Intel Core i7-6900K (8C/16T, 3.2-3.7 GHz)
Intel Core i7-6850K (6C/12T, 3.6-3.8 GHz)
Intel Core i7-6800K (6C/12T, 3.4-3.6 GHz, 28 PCIe 3.0)
Motherboards MSI X99A Gaming Pro Carbon
Cooling Cooler Master Nepton 140XL
Power Supply OCZ 1250W Gold ZX Series
Corsair AX1200i Platinum PSU
Memory G.Skill RipjawsX DDR4-2400 C15 4x16GB 1.2V
Memory Settings JEDEC @ 2400
Video Cards ASUS GTX 980 Strix 4GB
MSI R9 290X Gaming 4G
MSI GTX 770 Lightning 2GB
MSI R9 285 Gaming 2G
ASUS R7 240 2GB
Hard Drive Crucial MX200 1TB
Optical Drive LG GH22NS50
Case Open Test Bed
Operating System Windows 7 64-bit SP1

Many thanks to...

We must thank the following companies for kindly providing hardware for our test bed:

Thank you to AMD for providing us with the R9 290X 4GB GPUs.
Thank you to ASUS for providing us with GTX 980 Strix GPUs and the R7 240 DDR3 GPU.
Thank you to ASRock and ASUS for providing us with some IO testing kit.
Thank you to Cooler Master for providing us with Nepton 140XL CLCs.
Thank you to Corsair for providing us with an AX1200i PSU.
Thank you to Crucial for providing us with MX200 SSDs.
Thank you to G.Skill and Corsair for providing us with memory.
Thank you to MSI for providing us with the GTX 770 Lightning GPUs.
Thank you to OCZ for providing us with PSUs.
Thank you to Rosewill for providing us with PSUs and RK-9100 keyboards.

Turbo Boost Max 3.0 and Package Differences Generational Performance: Office and Real World Benchmarks
Comments Locked

205 Comments

View All Comments

  • piroroadkill - Tuesday, May 31, 2016 - link

    Shitty pricing, lame increases in performance.
    I really hope Zen lights a fire under their ass.
  • aggrokalle - Tuesday, May 31, 2016 - link

    Hi Ian, is the Intel Thermal Solution TS13A compatible with the thinner package of the Broadwell-E? I didn't find any informations on the intel website. Don't wonna break my shiny new toy :p
  • Godofmosquitos - Tuesday, May 31, 2016 - link

    Honestly - as the article itself mentions, the EE-line of CPU's have just fallen too far behind to be considered serious options for enthusiasts. At least imo. I still have a 980X clocked at 4GHz. And it runs everything with stellar performance. That was the last time Intel had an EE-CPU which was ahead of the curve. Also, as PCI-E 4.0 will seemingly require a new platform, due to lacking backwards compatibility of PCI-E 4.0 cards with 3.0 slots, I seriously cannot see anything justifying an upgrade before '18, when PCI-E 4.0 is out, we're on 10nm, and Intel Optane disks are readily available.
  • Godofmosquitos - Tuesday, May 31, 2016 - link

    Or well, for "the average" enthusiast at least ^^
  • Impulses - Tuesday, May 31, 2016 - link

    What I really don't get is why the 6800K is still saddled with a lower lane count... Aren't the price hikes and the lag to market enough of an HEDT differentiator? Is the lower lane count something that helps yields?

    They've gone backwards, from having an attractively priced 5820K that could lure some Z170/6700K buyers to basically making HEDT as irrelevant as possible unless you absolutely need the extra cores.

    A lot of enthusiasts that don't NEED 6+ cores but COULD benefit from it (photo/video work in the side etc) would be all over a more attractive and less ignored HEDT lineup.
  • rhysiam - Wednesday, June 1, 2016 - link

    I totally agree. I'm due for an upgrade and put myself exactly in that category of photo + video work on the side and being "lured" towards a 5820K. But the price hikes, lag to market and practically 0 performance seems to have pushed the "HEDT" line from enthusiast to niche. Reading this review I don't want anything to do with it.

    We've waited almost 2 years since the Haswell-E launch and the "update" offers significantly worse price/performance ratios.

    Especially with Skylake having plenty of PCIe lanes, with the right motherboard you're covered for 2 graphics cards (or 1 plus a RAID controller), several PCIe SSDs and a 10GBps NIC... plenty for the foreseeable future. Intel is making the cost of these 6+ core CPUs (both in terms of $$s and in the sacrifice you have to make in single threaded performance) larger and larger.

    My worry is that pushing up HEDT prices will allow them to bump up the prices of high end mainstream CPUs. Let's see how much the overclockable Kaby Lake i7 costs shall we? I sure hope Zen can shake things up.
  • adamod - Wednesday, June 1, 2016 - link

    market segmentation....no other reason
  • mapesdhs - Thursday, June 9, 2016 - link

    Doubly backwards given the 4820K was a 40-lane chip, whereas the 5820K isn't. It means a 4820K/X79 can do things for gaming with SLI/CF (and still have lanes for storage and other stuff) which a 5820K and 6800K can't.
  • rodmunch69 - Tuesday, May 31, 2016 - link

    I had a 980x and then upgraded to a 3930k... 4 years ago. The 2 extra cores were great and useful, but otherwise there wasn't a big difference between the chips. Reading this it doesn't seem like the base 6800k is really much of an upgrade over a 3930k. I've been wanting to upgrade if there was a reason to do so, but Intel again isn't giving me one. One thing however with the 980x is the motherboards and the related chipsets, that's where you'd see a big difference going with something like a 6800k and it would be the reason I'd move off a 980x, but only if I was looking for a reason to move.
  • rodmunch69 - Tuesday, May 31, 2016 - link

    I've had a 3930k for 4 years now and I still don't feel much of a need to upgrade. What is going on with Intel? They seriously need a competitor to kick them in the rear and push them ahead.

Log in

Don't have an account? Sign up now