MSI GT72 Dominator Pro: Performance Preview
by Jarred Walton on October 8, 2014 9:00 AM ESTNVIDIA just launched their new GTX 980M/GTX 970M GPUs, and unfortunately we were unable to get a notebook in time for testing… which just changed this morning a couple hours after the launch article went live. We've covered MSI's GM204 notebooks already, and now we have a sample GT72 sample from MSI for review. The GT72 Dominator is available in seven different configurations, two "Dominator" SKUs with GTX 970M and five "Dominator Pro" SKUs with GTX 980M. We received the GT72 Dominator Pro-208 for testing, which has the following specifications:
GT72 Dominator Pro-208 Specifications | |
CPU | Core i7-4710HQ (2.5-3.5GHz) |
GPU | NVIDIA GeForce GTX 980M 8GB Intel HD 4600 (Manual Switching) |
RAM | 32GB (4x8GB) DDR3L-1600 |
SSD | 512GB M.2 SATA SSDs (4x128GB SSDs in RAID 0) |
HDD | 1TB 7200RPM |
Optical | Blu-ray Burner 9.5mm |
Display | 17.3" Full HD eDP Anti-Glare (1920x1080) |
Networking | Killer Gaming Network Killer N1525 Combo (2x2 802.11ac + BT 4.0) |
I/O Ports | 6 x USB 3.0 Flash Reader (SDXC/SDHC) HDMI 1.4 2 x mini-DisplayPort 1.2 |
Input | Steel Series Keyboard Multi-touch Touchpad |
Power | 9-cell battery 230W AC adapter |
Extras | Full HD webcam (1080p30) Configurable Multi-colored Backlighting Anti-Ghost Key |
OS | Windows 8.1 Multi-Language |
Dimensions | 16.85" x 11.57"x 1.89" (428mm x 294mm x 48mm) |
Weight | 8.4 lbs. (3.82kg) |
Pricing | $3000 MSRP $2900 Online |
Once you get past the sticker shock, what we're looking it is a top of the line gaming notebook. MSI's GT72 is an overhaul of their previous GT70 design, with a new motherboard and chassis. The updates includes a slimmer and slightly lighter chassis with two cooling fans, six USB 3.0 ports (instead of five USB ports with two of them being USB 2.0 on the GT70), two mini-DisplayPort 1.2 ports (no VGA now), and a switch to M.2 SATA for SSDs instead of mSATA.
MSI also supports up to four M.2 SSDs now instead of three mSATA SSDs, with the option to go as high as a 1TB SSD array. I'm still not really convinced the RAID SSDs are the best solution for storage, and the cost of the SSDs looks to be quite high relative to 2.5" SSDs. For instance, the Samsung 850 Pro 512GB only costs $380 while MSI charges $350 to go from two 128GB SSDs to four 128GB SSDs (and 24GB to 32GB RAM). That said, the RAID 0 set of four SSDs should at least provide a hefty sustained throughput if that's what you need.
There is one concern with the configuration we've received for testing, and that's the choice of CPU. On a $3000 notebook, I'm a bit worried that the i7-4710HQ might be a bottleneck in some games. Of course, those are going to be games that tend to be CPU limited anyway (e.g. Skyrim and StarCraft II, which we're no longer running for precisely that reason). Still, we ran into cases where the previous generation GTX 780M was held back by the use of i7-4700MQ in the notebook we tested, and i7-4710HQ isn't much better.
I also find it curious that MSI has opted for the soldered onto the motherboard CPUs in place of the socketed i7-4710MQ. Perhaps it came with some space savings, but it means that whatever you start with will remain your CPU for the life of the laptop. On the other hand, I don't know many people who have upgraded notebook CPUs, so I suspect this will be more of a limitation for system integrators than for end users. Another concern is the lack of Optimus support; some people dislike Optimus and it can get in the way on occasion, but going back to manual switching at the press of a button (with a reboot in between) isn't necessarily great either.
Running our full suite of notebook tests obviously requires quite a bit of time, so we're not going to be done with the complete review of the MSI GT72 Dominator Pro for at least a few days. But considering this is first and foremost a gaming notebook, we felt a short preview of the graphics performance was in order. We've run all of our current crop of gaming tests (along with a couple extras for good measure).
Since we have a decent selection of MSI notebooks still available for testing, I've confined the reported results to those notebooks. That means we're looking at the GE60 Stealth Pro, GS60 Ghost Pro 3K, GT70 Dominator Pro (GTX 880M), and the new GT72 Dominator Pro-208. (Note that if you're just after the GTX 980M, the GT72 Dominator Pro-211 drops to a single 128GB SSD and 16GB RAM for $2300.) We're also looking to get a notebook with a GTX 970M for testing, but we haven't received one yet; performance should be pretty close to the 880M in most cases, though with potentially better battery life and support for new features like VXGI and DX12.
But first, let's unwrap this "present" and see what MSI has sent along....
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dblkk - Wednesday, October 8, 2014 - link
there have been several reviews done on this new chassis. MSI did the GT72 refresh with the same i7 4710 and gtx 880m. Thermals were lower than Asus, and even with similar chipped Dell.Without 'turbo fan' on, temps were well below throttling limits. With 'turbo fan' on, temps were incredibly low, fan noise incredibly high.
The Gt70 has higher GPU temps/throttling with their single fan, but Asus has high/throttling CPU temps with their dual fan. For gaming the GT70 was still a beast even with throttling, but it wasn't the best ill admit. But for rendering/CPU intensive activities, the GT70 is actually one of the best.
Aionios - Wednesday, October 8, 2014 - link
well the thermals are incredible here's a video of full review https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9-d5k-tkBA&li...Meaker10 - Wednesday, October 8, 2014 - link
They are getting IPS displays in a month or two, 17.3" IPS have only starting to be made.Current models should be upgradable since they use a 30 pin eDP connector.
nathanddrews - Wednesday, October 8, 2014 - link
Good to know. I recently tried to upgrade my wife's Lenovo only to discover it used a single-channel LVDS cable. No 1080p IPS for her.Meaker10 - Wednesday, October 8, 2014 - link
Also there is a 4980HQ version to launch too for those who want more CPU power. It wont be cheap however.nathanddrews - Wednesday, October 8, 2014 - link
Possible correction:Most of the charts are labeled "Ultra", but then underneath say "1920x1080 VeryHigh", except for the very last chart which says "1920x1080 Ultra". The same is true for the charts on "High".
Overall, an impressive mGPU. Can it be configured with 1TB SSDs instead?
JarredWalton - Wednesday, October 8, 2014 - link
Thanks -- I forgot to change the subtitles on the copy/paste/edit when making the graphs. I've put in the settings used (as much as possible) now.As for larger SSDs, the top model comes with four 256GB SSDs in RAID 0, and the usual places that do custom MSI notebooks should allow you to swap out the 1TB HDD for a 1TB SSD.
Jambe - Wednesday, October 8, 2014 - link
I don't need the throughput of RAID SSDs so I'm always left thinking these big laptops would be much more compelling with no M.2 at all and an accessible 2.5" bay. Nice high-cap SSDs are permanently around or below 40 cents per gig, so I just balk at the prices being asked.Meaker10 - Wednesday, October 8, 2014 - link
There are a variety of models out which can be customised to your needs.bleh0 - Wednesday, October 8, 2014 - link
I can't wait for a proper roundup of the various 980m equipped models.