The AMD Ryzen 7 9700X and Ryzen 5 9600X Review: Zen 5 is Alive
by Gavin Bonshor on August 7, 2024 9:00 AM ESTPower Consumption
Our previous sets of ‘office’ benchmarks have often been a mix of science and synthetics, so this time, we wanted to keep our office and productivity section purely based on real-world performance. We've also incorporated our power testing into this section.
The biggest update to our Office-focused tests for 2024 and beyond includes UL's Procyon software, the successor to PCMark. Procyon benchmarks office performance using Microsoft Office applications, with other web-based benchmarks such as Jetstream and timed runs of compilers, including Linux, PHP, and Node.js.
Below are the settings we have used for each platform:
- DDR5-5600B CL46 - Ryzen 9000
- DDR5-5600B CL46 - Intel 14th & 13th Gen
- DDR5-5200 CL44 - Ryzen 7000
Power
The nature of reporting processor power consumption has become, in part, a bit of a nightmare. Historically the peak power consumption of a processor, as purchased, is given by its Thermal Design Power (TDP, or PL1). For many markets, such as embedded processors, that value of TDP still signifies the peak power consumption. For the processors we test at AnandTech, either desktop, notebook, or enterprise, this is not always the case.
Modern high-performance processors implement a feature called Turbo. This allows, usually for a limited time, a processor to go beyond its rated frequency. Exactly how far the processor goes depends on a few factors, such as the Turbo Power Limit (PL2), whether the peak frequency is hard coded, the thermals, and the power delivery. Turbo can sometimes be very aggressive for TDP that are, broadly speaking, applied the same. The difference comes from turbo modes, turbo limits, turbo budgets, and how the processors manage that power balance. These topics are 10000-12000 word articles in their own right, and we’ve got a few articles worth reading on the topic.
- Why Intel Processors Draw More Power Than Expected: TDP and Turbo Explained
- Talking TDP, Turbo and Overclocking: An Interview with Intel Fellow Guy Therien
- Reaching for Turbo: Aligning Perception with AMD’s Frequency Metrics
- Intel’s TDP Shenanigans Hurts Everyone
Regarding peak power consumption, all of AMD's 65 W TDP designated chips fall between 87 and 88 W due to AMD's Package Power Tracking from the CPU socket itself (PPT), which boosts power for more performance. It is misleading regarding what the CPU is pulling power-wise compared to what the TDP states, but there are very few examples of any processor in the modern age following TDP.
Looking at how the AMD Ryzen 7 9700X compares to the previous Ryzen 7 7700, we can see both perform similarly regarding power consumption. Both chips, when loaded up with the Cinebench 2024 multi-threaded test, consistently tread between 88 W (9700X) and 90 W (7700). Power variation within the workload itself is very consistent, with very little differential as the workload progresses through the loop. Between the tests loading, we can see a consistent drop in power to just under 70 W briefly for the Ryzen 7 9700X and around 67 W for the Ryzen 7 7700. Given that both processors are nearly identical (8C/16T at 65 W TDP/88-90 W PPT), aside from the underlying core architecture, we can see striking similarities in power consumption and behavior under an intensive workload, too.
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schujj07 - Thursday, August 8, 2024 - link
Starting with 13th Gen Intel had a core and total thread count advantage on type vs type (Ryzen 5 vs i5 for example). However, when you compare Ryzen vs Core on thread counts the Ryzens tend to be faster for the same number of threads.Targon - Friday, August 9, 2024 - link
You are only partially correct. Intel has those "efficiency" cores, and includes those in the core count. E-cores are very low performance, so 16 Zen4 cores vs. 8 P-cores+16 E-cores is the comparison you are looking at, and at this point, a 7950X vs the 14900k makes for an interesting comparison in Cinebench with a generally stock configuration(turn on XMP/EXPO memory).meacupla - Wednesday, August 7, 2024 - link
is there an idle power draw graph?Slash3 - Wednesday, August 7, 2024 - link
4K gaming page still has a few rather unnecessary text padding entries at the bottom, FYI. :)isthisavailable - Wednesday, August 7, 2024 - link
The PS5/ Xbox series made 8c/16t the new minimum when they launched in 2020. It's 2024 and the new gen CPU is still launching with a 6c/12t part as the "baseline". No core count increase since the original Zen launch. It's high time AMD moves to 8/16 for the Ryzen 5Khanan - Wednesday, August 7, 2024 - link
Why, so 99.9% of games can ignore the 2 extra cores? Aside, the 6 core is a harvested 8 core product, it will always exist.You cry for more cores but don’t understand the way games work today and where the development goes. Game devs don’t like high core counts and rarely optimise for more than 4-6 cores.
erotomania - Thursday, August 8, 2024 - link
Actually original Zen launched (or rather, the lineup was completed shortly after launch) with 4C/4T and 4C/8T and 6C/6T. Even the original Ryzen 5 was three months after Ryzen 7 - I know because I waited for a 1600.schujj07 - Friday, August 9, 2024 - link
Zen 1 topped out at 8c/16t and you could get 16c/32t if you got a Threadripper. Since Zen 2, the top CPU is 16c/32t before going to Threadripper. Really there aren't many consumer applications that use more threads than that. Now once Zen 6 comes we might see higher core counts per CCD as that will be on a smaller process node.haukionkannel - Saturday, August 10, 2024 - link
Not really… 8 core still is not much faster than 8 core and 10 core would be same speed as 8 core in ost normal use cases…When the core count becomes the bottleneck, then i agree that more cores would be nice to have. But we are not in there…
shabby - Wednesday, August 7, 2024 - link
I think amd screwed up with the 9700x, this should have been a 105w processor, not a 65w one. The 7700 ran at 65w and had similar clocks, while the 7700x ran at 105w with much higher base clocks.