ASRock DeskMeet B660 Review: An Affordable NUC Extreme?by Ganesh T S on January 23, 2023 8:30 AM EST
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ASRock was one of the earliest vendors to cater to the small-form factor (SFF) PC market with a host of custom-sized motherboards based on notebook platforms in their Vision / Core series units. They ended up missing the NUC bus for the most part, with the Beebox series put into cold storage after Skylake and Kaby Lake were phased out. The industrial design and learnings from the Beebox have since been passed on to ASRock Industrial for systems catering to the commercial and embedded markets.
After Kaby Lake, ASRock shifted focus to Intel's 5x5 mini-STX form-factor introduced in 2015. While allowing for installation of socketed processors, the form-factor could not support a discrete GPU slot. Around the same time, Intel also started marketing enthusiast NUCs with a discrete notebook GPU soldered on the motherboard / integrated in the package. ASRock has introduced multiple Intel and AMD-based mini-STX DeskMini systems since 2016, and also created the micro-STX form-factor to offer a socketed alternative to the enthusiast NUCs.
Intel's next big push in the NUC market came with the appearance of Compute Elements and Extreme NUCs, with the latter supporting user-replaceable discrete GPUs. In order to offer alternatives in that segment, ASRock introduced their DeskMeet product line early last year with support for socketed processors and a PCIe x16 slot for installing add-in cards. The review below provides a detailed analysis of the features, performance, and value proposition of the DeskMeet B660 - a 8L SFF PC based on the Intel B660 chipset, capable of accommodating Alder Lake or Raptor Lake CPUs, and selected dual-slot GPUs.
Introduction and Product Impressions
The increase in the capabilities and power efficiency of processors, coupled with innovative thermal solutions has also enabled small-form factor machines to enter markets that were restricted to bulky power-hungry tower form-factor machines in the past. While a majority of the SFF and UCFF machines in the market are typically based on sub-45W processors, there is a growing market (in the gaming and workstation space) for small systems that can accommodate socketed CPUs. ASRock's DeskMini series of mini-STX and micro-STX machines have served this market since the Skylake days. Coinciding the with the launch of Intel's Alder Lake, ASRock introduced a new option for consumers in a slightly larger form-factor - the DeskMeet B660.
The DeskMeet B660 focuses on the DIY market for gaming and e-sports systems. This segment has served as a growth vector for the otherwise moribund PC market over the last several years. Portabile gaming PCs have the added advantage of being compact, lending themselves to use-cases that are not easily served by traditional tower desktops. Compared to the DeskMini mini-STX series, the new systems bring the following updates:
- PCIe 4.0 x16 slot allowing the installation of a dual-slot discrete GPU
- Increased memory capacity, thanks to the presence of four full-length DDR4 DIMM slots
- Integrated PSU
The package includes the following components:
- ASRock B660-ITX motherboard (with associated cables, screws, and an I/O shield)
- 500W (80+ Bronze) ATX PSU
- Metal chassis (168mm x 219.3mm x 218.3mm) (with associated assembling aids)
- Assembly instructions
Compact systems with a PCIe x16 slot and an integrated PSU can be realized with mini-ITX motherboards. Such standard boards are restricted to two DIMM slots due to space constraints. In order to accommodate two additional DIMM slots, ASRock has opted for a propretiary form-factor. Their 'Deep mini-ITX' board measures 210mm x 170mm (compared to the 170mm x 170mm of a regular mini-ITX board).
End-users have the flexibility to choose their own CPU, storage device, RAM, and optional discrete GPU. Space constraints impose some limitations on these, though. The 8L system can support liquid cooling if a PCIe add-on card is not used. CPU coolers up to 54mm in height can be used (anything higher would end up bumping into the underside of the PSU). Processors with a TDP of up to 65W can be safely used in air cooling. While select 125W TDP processors are supported, it requires the use of liquid cooling (ruling out the PCIe add-on card usability). F-series SKUs can be used, but it requires the compulsory installation of a video card, as the native display outputs of the B660-ITX require a CPU with an integrated GPU.
ASRock sampled us the DeskMeet B660 along with their AMD Radeon RX 6400 Challenger ITX video card and an Intel Core i7-12700F Alder Lake-S processor. The following additional components were used to complete the build:
- SilverStone Hydrogon H90 ARGB CPU cooler
- Mushkin Redline Frostbyte DDR4-3600 DIMMs (4x16 GB)
- Mushkin Vortex Redline 2 TB M.2 2280 PCIe 4.0 x4 NVMe SSD
The system is meant to be actively cooled, but the DeskMeet B660 unit by itself doesn't have any fans bundled with the chassis. The fans in the CPU cooler and video card cooler should suffice for most installations. However, the side of the chassis close to the PCIe slot can also be used to mount a 120mm case cooler or a liquid cooling radiator (thickness up to 45mm). In such cases, the PCIe slot is rendered unusable.
The full specifications of our review configuration are provided in the table below.
|ASRock DeskMeet B660 Specifications
|Processor||Intel Core i7-12700F
Alder Lake-S 8C + 4c / 20T, 1.6 - 4.9 GHz
Intel 7, 12MB L2 + 25MB L3, 65 W
(PL1 = 65W, PL2 = 126W)
|Memory||Mushkin Redline Frostbyte MRX4U360GKKP16G DDR4-3600 DIMMs
16-19-19-39 @ 3600 MHz (XMP 1.0)
|Graphics||AMD Radeon RX 6400 (Navi 24) 4GB GDDR6
(768 SPs @ 2039 MHz)
|Disk Drive(s)||Mushkin Vortex Redline MKNSSDVT2TB-D8
(2 TB; M.2 2280 PCIe 4.0 x4 NVMe;)
(Micron 176L 3D TLC; InnoGrit IG5236 Controller)
|Networking||1x GbE RJ-45 (Intel I219-V)|
|Audio||Realtek ALC897 (3.5mm Audio Jack in Front and Line In / Speaker / Microphone Jacks in Rear)
Digital Audio with Bitstreaming Support over HDMI and Display Port (via dGPU)
|Video||1x HDMI 2.1 (up to 4Kp60, VRR and FRL)
1x Display Port 1.4a (both via dGPU)
|Miscellaneous I/O Ports||2x USB 2.0 Type-A (Rear)
2x USB 3.2 Gen 1 Type-A (Rear)
1x USB 3.2 Gen 1 Type-C (Front)
2x USB 2.0 Type-A (Front)
2x USB 3.2 Gen 1 Type-A (Front)
|Operating System||Windows 11 Enterprise (22000.1335)|
|Pricing||(Street Pricing on January 23rd, 2022)
USD 191 (barebones)
US $863 (as configured, no OS)
|Full Specifications||ASRock DeskMeet B660 Specifications|
Assembling the System
The DeskMeet package comes with the PSU and the motherboard bundled inside the chassis with appropriate padding. Assembling the system involves removing a single screw from the bottom side of the case and pulling out the motherboard tray. One of the likable aspects here is that the front panel of the case directly interfaces with the components on the motherboard. This eliminates the tangling of wires that was seen in the previous DeskMini systems when separating the motherboard tray from the chassis. The motherboard comes mounted on the tray, and the CPU and cooler installation steps are no different from other boards with socketed CPUs.
Up to four DDR4 DIMMs can be installed in the system. A M.2 2230 slot is available for a Wi-Fi / Bluetooth combo PCIe / USB card. The case has appropriate holes for the antennae. There are two M.2 2280 slots (one next to the PCIe slot, and another on the underside) for installation of NVMe SSDs. The slot next on the underside is PCIe-only, while the other can accommodate both NVMe and SATA SSDs. Unfortunately, the documentation is not clear on which of these slots is directly attached to the CPU. In other boards, the slot that multiplexes the SATA and PCIe lanes usually comes from the chipset (PCH), while the pure PCIe one is from the CPU. Based on this assumption, we reviewed the system with the SSD installed on the underside.
The board contains 3 SATA ports. The case allows for mounting of 2.5" and 3.5" drives in two areas. The first one is inside the inner frame, adjacent to the front I/O panel. While two 2.5" drives can always be installed in that area, a 3.5" drive can only be installed if the PCIe card is not full-length. The other area is the side of the frame near the motherboard's PCIe x16 slot. In this area, installing a 3.5" drive precludes the possibility of a PCIe add-in card. In the case of two 2.5" drives, dual-slot add-in cards can't be installed, but single-slot cards can still be used. Using such SATA drives also precludes the possibility of mounting a fan or a water-cooling radiator in the system.
GPU installation involves releasing a latch and fastening screws after placing the add-in card in place. The PSU is fastened in-place at the very end, with all necessary screws in the back panel. The PSU is not modular, but the number of cables to route is minimal, and cable management is not really much of an issue. It is possible to completely remove the motherboard and I/O shield from the tray, but we didn't find it necessary during the assembly process.
In the next section, we take a look at the BIOS options along with an analysis of the motherboard platform. Following that, we have a number of sections focusing on various performance aspects before concluding with an analysis of the value proposition of the system.
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ganeshts - Thursday, February 9, 2023 - linkI apologize for the error in the comment above. There is plenty of space available on the inside of the inner frame to mount 2x 2.5" disk drives adjacent to the front I/O.
Please check the first column in the picture here:
Note that the 3.5" drive installation could cause interference with cabling if a dual slot GPU is installed, but 2.5" drives should not be an issue.
ganeshts - Friday, January 27, 2023 - linkYes, there is a 8-pin connector from the PSU. You can also check out the Graphics Card QVL on the ASRock website for the product. There are a few 3060 models in there.
Hrel - Thursday, January 26, 2023 - linkstill way too many trade offs, going smaller than mini-ITX just takes you out of the PC world in every meaningful way. GPU's that fit this thing are almost exclusively Nvidia and the fastest you can get is RTX3060... however with one fan on the card and that small space it's gonna die quickly, as well as the rest of these components.
Mr.Vegas - Friday, January 27, 2023 - linkThere is 3060ti made by asus that fits there, dual slot and less than 20cm
shrimp_parm - Thursday, February 9, 2023 - link"Since the DeskMeet B660 is a consumer-focused system, the UEFI has all the bells and whistles including the ability to update firmware directly from the Internet and fine-grained control of the fan speeds in relation to the temperatures."
Is it possible to update bios via internet without the need for a 12th gen cpu, to accommodate 13th gen cpu's?
LMao HAHA - Sunday, March 12, 2023 - linkI have one and want to know actually. I still need CPU and haven't build it since Nov. But I think if you bought one recently past 2023, it may have the 13th gen Bios ready.
marcelop67 - Monday, February 13, 2023 - linkThis makes a great little Proxmox server. I have installed an i5 12400, 128GB memory, dual Samsung 980 PRO 1TB, dual WD Red 2TD SATA SSD's and an Intel quad port PCIe card,
When you are concerned about the M.2 SSD slot on the motherboard's underside, you can use a Be quiet! MC1 M2 SSD heatsink. It fits perfectly and reduces the operating temperature by ~15 degrees Celsius. (at least with my Samsung 980 Pro's).