CPU Chip Topologies

Having explained that the various cloud instances can vary quite dramatically in their hardware configurations even though on paper they have the same delivered “vCPU” count, it would be interesting to dwell a little bit more into the CPU topologies and resulting aspects such as the core-to-core latencies. Frustrated with some inflexible or inaccurate public tools on the matter, I recently had the time to write a new custom microbenchmark for testing synchronisation latencies of CPU cores, exhibiting some of the cache-coherency as well as physical layouts of current designs.

The following tables are core-to-core synchronisation latencies in nanoseconds.


Graviton1 - a1.4xlarge - Arm v8.0 ldaex/stlex

I thought that first it would be interesting to go back and showcase how Amazon’s first-generation Graviton SoC fared in this regard. Powered by Cortex-A72 cores, this design had its 16 cores arranged into 4 clusters, connected via coherent crossbar interconnect. Each cluster of 4x A72 cores had its own 2MB L2 cache, and we clearly see the faster access latencies within such a cluster in the above results. Coherency going from one cluster to the other incurred quite a high penalty, almost quadrupling the access latency.


Graviton2 - m6g.16xlarge - Arm v8.0 ldaex/stlex
Cache line Near Core 0

Moving onto the Graviton2 with its 64 N1 cores, we see quite a different setup that is comparatively a lot more uniform. This makes sense as the chip’s cores are connected via a mesh network, and the chip is a single monolithic die design. We do see some odd results in the latencies though, most particularly with the lower numbered cores having seemingly better access latencies between each other than the higher numbered cores. I didn’t quite understand this behaviour as in theory the latencies should behave more evenly across the mesh.

Experimenting around, I saw that the results weren’t consistent across runs. Changing the CPU affinity around did have some larger impact on the results, until I understood what was happening.


Graviton2 - m6g.16xlarge - Arm v8.0 ldaex/stlex
Cache line Near Core 63

In fact, what we’re seeing in the two above result sets isn’t the core-to-core two-point latency across the mesh, but rather the core-to-cache-to-core three-point latencies of the system. Amazon and Arm had confirmed one particular odd aspect of the CMN-600: cache lines are statically resident across the mesh’s cache slices. When allocating a cache line in the memory address space, this undergoes a particular hashing function which determines on which mesh cache slice it is physically homed in. When accessing this cache line from any CPU in the system, it always accesses the same physical L3 cache slice on the chip.

My particular test here consists of three primary threads: the main timing thread, and two ping-pong’ing bouncer threads which alter a flag on a cache-line allocated at the start of the test on the main thread. The behaviour which ensues in the above results table, is that when the flag cache line resides in one corner of the chip (Core pair 54 & 55 to be exact in this results set), and we have two cores on the opposite side of the chip accessing this cache line, it means the data must move forth across the whole chip and back even though it’s only being used by two cores adjacent to each other. Similarly, if two cores are synchronising on a cache line that is homed on a physically near cache slice in the mesh, the latencies will be significantly better as it has to travel much less distance.

It’s quite the odd behaviour that we don’t see quite as prevalent in other meshed cache interconnect systems such as Intel’s Xeons, although admittedly we don’t know if that’s just because we haven’t seen the same large core count implemented in such a manner, or if they have some sort of smarter cache line handling in such scenarios.

Amazon’s Graviton2 doesn’t partition the L3 mesh cache when launching lower vCPU count instances, and each instance in the system competitively shares the full 32MB cache with each other. I didn’t further spend time on this theory in my testing time, but it would be quite the odd result if you’re running some sort of high-synchronisation bottlenecked workload and the performance would vary just depending on where your shared cache line ends up on the chip relative to your active instance cores, food for thought for some database workloads.

The above results were core-to-core latencies implemented via Arm v8.0 exclusive load and stores, which isn’t really how you should do things on new chips such as the Neoverse N1 based Graviton2. As the N1 cores are v8.2 compatible, it means that they also implement the v8.1 ISA which add new instructions such as atomic compare-and-set (CAS).


Graviton2 - m6g.16xlarge - Arm v8.1 CAS

Using CAS instructions for synchronisation is massively more efficient and faster than using several sequential operations for altering a value, as the change can be done in a single atomic operation, vastly reducing the back-and-forth coherency traffic across the chip. In absolute figures, this results in latencies almost 4 times faster than the equivalent Arm v8.0 mechanism.

What’s important here in terms of takeaways, is that if you are deploying software on the new Graviton2 system and upcoming other Neoverse N1 platforms, is that you should pay very close attention to make sure your software stack is compiled against Arm v8.1 or higher (N1 is v8.2).

Currently I don’t know how many pre-compiled packages in Linux distributions even account for such scenarios as I imagine they’re all targeting the most common v8.0 baseline. Again, database applications and other synchronization heavy workloads will be most affected and it’s recommended you compile these from source – it would be an interesting performance test for AWS users who do deploy such workloads (Taking suggestions on such a real-world test setup!).

Looking at the CAS results again, besides the lower latencies, we also see a higher-level latency pattern across the mesh, with distinct separation into 16-core groups in terms of the latencies.

Essentially what I think we’re seeing here is the separation of the chip’s mesh network into “super tiles”, essentially mesh quadrants on the chip. Depending on how the data is routed on the mesh, this appears as a pattern across the latencies between the cores. It is quite odd that these results aren’t as uniform as the v8.0 results; I don’t have any technical explanation for this behaviour.

Finally, it’s again noteworthy that we’re talking about a 64-core system with a single uniform memory domain and on a single monolithic die. AMD’s Rome does provide the former, but doesn’t achieve the same uniform access latencies as the Graviton2.


Xeon Platinum 8259 (Cascade Lake) - m5n.16xlarge - x86 CAS

Looking at the Intel Xeon based instances for comparison, we see relatively uniform access across 16 cores in the same socket, with worse latencies for the CPUs in the second socket. The Graviton2’s latencies here are better than Intel in the best case, but also slightly worse in the worst case (in the same socket).

It’s to be noted that these systems have the SMT logical cores enumerated not at N+1 as in Windows, but instead first listing the cores in physical order first, and then listing the secondary SMT logical cores, hence the mirrored latencies from core 32 onwards. Noteworthy is the low logical-to-logical core latencies of 9.3ns (~3.2GHz cores), due to the coherency between such siblings happening at the L1D cache level.

Having two sockets, we’re seeing two NUMA nodes for the Xeon system, dividing up the physical memory into two virtual memory spaces and two core sets.


AMD EPYC 7571 - m5a.16xlarge - x86 CAS

Finally, the AMD EPYC system we see cores within an CCX having excellent latencies between each other, however coherency between different CCXs is slow, and even slower when accessing other dies within the socket.

The four NUMA nodes means the memory is divided into four virtual memory spaces as well as CPU groups. Again, AMD’s newer EPYC2 Rome processors get rid of this limitation, but alas weren’t able to test on AWS at this moment in time.

Amazon's Graviton2: First Neoverse N1 Chip Memory Subsystem & Latency
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  • CampGareth - Wednesday, March 11, 2020 - link

    There's a list here: https://aws.amazon.com/ec2/instance-types/

    If you're on T2 instances you're on Intel chips at the moment.
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  • Quantumz0d - Wednesday, March 11, 2020 - link

    No real benchmark. Another SPEC Whiteknighting. I see the AT forums Apple CPU thread being getting creamed over this again.

    ARM is a lockdown POS. You can't even buy them in this case. Altera CPU didn't even came to STH for comparision where it had so many cores against x86 parts. You cannot get them running majority of the consumer workload. One can claim Power from IBM has SMT8 and first Gen4 and all but if its not consumer centric it won't generate much of profit.

    Author seems to love ARM for some reason and hate x86. Its been since Apple articles but in real time we saw how iPhone gets decimated in speed comparison against Android Flagships running the stone age Qualcomm. We have seen this ARM dethroning x86 numerous times and failed. I hope this also fails, a non standard CPU leaves all fun out of equation. And needs emulation for consumer use which slows down performance.

    People want to see all the workloads. Not SPEC. Also where is EPYC Rome comparision Nowhere. Soon Milan is going to hit. Glad that AMD is alive. This stupid ARM BGA dumpster should be dead in its infancy.
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  • Wilco1 - Wednesday, March 11, 2020 - link

    LOL - someone feels extremely threatened by Arm servers...

    Mission accomplished!
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  • anonomouse - Wednesday, March 11, 2020 - link

    Well that was bizarrely incoherent. What workloads would you want to see instead? Nothing else you wrote made any sense or had any facts behind it. Reply
  • Andrei Frumusanu - Wednesday, March 11, 2020 - link

    He's been doing it for the last year or two, ignore it. Reply
  • jbrower - Saturday, July 24, 2021 - link

    Well at least you have a troll -- mark of success for authors, hehe Reply
  • ProDigit - Wednesday, March 11, 2020 - link

    110W is very pessimistic, and would make no sense at all, considering that the ryzen 9 3900x uses 105W at 12 cores 24 threads at 4.6Ghz and 7nm, and the 3950 does the same with 4 more cores.
    Plus, regular arm based (AMLogic) boxes use 3Watt in total under load (that includes CPU+Ethernet+RAM+Emmc) for 4 CPU cores running at 1,9Ghz.
    If you ask me, 64 core arm CPUs running at 2Ghz should run at around just over 1 watt per core, making it a 65W tdp chip
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  • Andrei Frumusanu - Wednesday, March 11, 2020 - link

    There's 64 PCIe4 lanes and 8 memory controllers in there as well. Reply
  • cdome - Wednesday, March 11, 2020 - link

    Quick question. Does Graviton2 have support for SVE2 vector extension? if yes how wide are execution units? thank you Reply
  • Andrei Frumusanu - Wednesday, March 11, 2020 - link

    No, there's 2x128b v8 ASIMD/NEON pipes. Reply

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