Ryzen Mobile Now On Sale: HP’s ENVY X360
by Ian Cutress on November 14, 2017 12:20 PM ESTThe biggest question when AMD formally launched its Ryzen Mobile platform was all about ‘when’. At the time AMD announced three primary partners and three systems, with the aim that all the units would be available before the holidays. When we spoke to the vendors, only HP seemed to have a closer date than ‘Q1’, with the Envy X360 planned for some time in November. This week it formally went on sale over at hp.com, and it seems to also be available at retail over at Best Buy.
Stopped by @BestBuy today. Picked up the first @AMDRyzen mobile with @Radeon Vega graphics. Thanks to @HP team for great partnership. https://t.co/6LQGlEwnjQ pic.twitter.com/PYaJXlNbST
— Lisa Su (@LisaSu) November 13, 2017
We reported on the unit at launch: the HP Envy x360 with Ryzen Mobile is a 15.6-inch convertible laptop with a 1920x1080 edge-to-edge display, and will feature the AMD Ryzen 5 2500U quad-core SoC. This processor uses four of AMD’s Zen cores, running up to 3.6 GHz, paired with Vega 8 graphics (that’s 8 compute units, so 512 Vega SPs) running up to 1100 MHz with a 15W TDP. It is listed as having 6MB of cache, although this is split between 2 MB of L2 cache, and 4 MB of L3 cache (and the caches are very different in their use).
At Ryzen Mobile launch, it was stated that the Envy x360 would only support 8 GB of DRAM maximum, which to most people was a little odd. Thankfully that is not the case, and HP offers up to 16 GB. HP initially offered the unit with a 4+4 GB DDR4-2400 dual-channel memory configuration, although that seems to have already been sold out, with 12 GB (4+8) and 16 GB (8+8) options left. The base storage option is a 1TB SATA hard drive, although for a premium HP does offer several PCIe NVMe SSD options or combinations therein.
The design uses a full-size island-style backlit keyboard with a numeric keypad, and the unit comes with a 3-cell, 55.8 Wh battery, and Intel 802.11ac wireless connectivity. There is an IR camera for Windows Hello support, a USB-C with DisplayPort and with power capabilities, and HP lists the laptop as able to drive two UHD displays. HP’s partnership with Bang & Olufsen continues, handling the audio duties. It also features a stylus for Windows Ink.
HP ENVY x360 Ryzen Mobile | |||||
CPU | AMD Ryzen 5 2500U Quad-core, Eight-thread, 2.0GHz to 3.6GHz |
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GPU | AMD Radeon Vega 8 Graphics 8 Radeon RX Vega CUs Up to 1100 MHz |
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Display | 15.6" 1920x1080 IPS with Touch | ||||
Memory | 8 GB (4+4) DDR4-2400 12 GB (4+8) DDR4-2400 16 GB (8+8) DDR4-2400 |
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Storage | Up to 512 GB SSD Up to 1 TB HDD Up to 256GB SSD + 1TB HDD |
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Wireless | Intel 802.11ac w/Bluetooth 4.2 | ||||
I/O | 1 USB-C 3.1 Gen 1 with DP 1.2 and Power 2 USB 3.0 1 HDMI Headset Jack |
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Power | 65W AC Adapter 55.8 Wh Battery |
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Dimensions | 14.16" x 9.8" x 0.77" | ||||
Weight | 4.75 lbs | ||||
Starting Price | $699 with 8GB DRAM + 1TB HDD |
So when this laptop initially went on sale, the base configuration (8GB of memory, 1TB HDD) was being sold with an additional discount for $599 total. Very quickly it seems that the deal ran out, as well as the 8GB memory configuration. Currently, the website offers the 12GB memory configuration, still with the 1TB storage option, but for $805 and shipping set for 11/27. Obviously, this price is not as lucrative as the $599 price, but seems more than reasonable when compared to the Intel version. The Intel version, when not running a brand new $200 discount, features a Core i7-8550U with HD630 graphics, the same DRAM/storage combo, but with a non-IR enabled camera, for $930. It would be interesting to see how they match up in CPU performance, gaming performance, and power consumption.
I am told we have a unit incoming for review. Watch this space.
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GreenReaper - Sunday, November 26, 2017 - link
As a bonus, if you clone the HDD to an SSD, you have a perfectly-sized HDD for backup. :-)HStewart - Tuesday, November 14, 2017 - link
In general X360's look nice but I found personally that HP's are cheaply made.I thought the X360's were aim at primary professional users - you don't need powerful GPU for most business needs.
Alexvrb - Wednesday, November 15, 2017 - link
Even if you're right and most buyers are business users with no "need" for a faster GPU, more software than ever leans on the GPU for performance benefits. Look at the work Firefox has been doing with Quantum, for example. GPU compute in action.Also, I know a lot of nerds that buy a device for "work" with light gaming as a side benefit. OEMs even cram dGPUs in a lot of "pro" models, so they must sell enough to justify it. That doesn't even count the professional creative-types who have needed a little GPU horsepower for many years.
Rocket321 - Tuesday, November 14, 2017 - link
Really look forward to the review!Does the stylus have 2,000+ levels of pressure sensitivity, I.e. Usable by an amateur graphic artist? I hope they send one with the sample and you give some anacdotal commentary.
Myrandex - Tuesday, November 14, 2017 - link
Happy to hear about the review unit coming in! I bought one online back on Nov 10, but it will be a while before it arrives (with 8+8 memory config & an SSD option).serendip - Tuesday, November 14, 2017 - link
How about something smaller? An APU in a 12" tablet chassis would be nice, like a supercharged Surface.neblogai - Wednesday, November 15, 2017 - link
Yes, I'd also be interested in something like that. At least 2c4t with 8-10CUs in a platform similar to surface pro2 (able to cool ~33W continuous load), just with 12-13" screen would allow to make nearly full use of Ryzen mobile U series capabilities for light gaming and still be very portable and inexpensive.yannigr2 - Wednesday, November 15, 2017 - link
NVMe support, 16GB of RAM. It looks like an upgraded model, compared to what AMD's slides where showing.msroadkill612 - Wednesday, November 15, 2017 - link
Just to clarify folks, when optioned for 2 drives, they cryptically switch terminology from nvme to m.2 SSD.m.2 is not necessarily nvme - it probably means the paired ssd is the much slower sata type. Still fast, but can be up to 6x slower.
peevee - Thursday, November 16, 2017 - link
Good catch.